Farming and stuff

I'm branching this topic because it's completely left the court decision on the Ruataniwha land swap. .... @geeves: "Artificial meat has been around for 10 years or more under the name tvp. Its made from soy. How many times have you willingly eaten it? I suspect not many. Its even sold dehy so ideal for tramping but still we wont eat the stuff." On the other hand, various food additives have been around for ages and everyone eats them unless they go to conscious and difficult effort to avoid the massive portion of processed foods they're in. Maybe you'll still buy cow's milk in a bottle for home use in NZ, where you actually know and care that you're using milk, but if milk can eventually be produced synthetically such that it's chemically identical, or close enough, there are plenty motivations for upstream manufacturers and other food providers (cafes, restaurants, fast food) to use it. It's probably far cheaper, it'll be easier to modify chemically to avoid people's allergies, it'll probably have a better long term reputation for good hygiene (and so be preferable for every industry with food safety obligations), and likely a better environmental record. That risks completely undercutting the bulk of the global dairy industry in a matter of years if it gets going. I read the Fed Farmers response to all of this from when it hit the news a couple of years ago. It's basically "it's not real and not proven and so we're completely un-worried". http://www.newshub.co.nz/business/nz-farmers-not-worried-about-artificial-milk-2014071307 Andrew Hoggard wrote a lengthier mocking tribute at http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/publications/opinion-editorials/article.asp?id=1716 He seems to be mocking it on the grounds that "stuff like this has never worked before", but doesn't really address details of what science might actually be doing when he's not looking. It mightn't become an issue, but the response didn't inspire me with confidence that Fonterra has any strategy nor clear understanding that the global industry it's participating in isn't entirely about milk.
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I cant stand tea so in 2080 I will switch to water. I will be 120 by then
Havelock North has had one of the largest outbreaks of water-borne disease in the developed world, which is raising red flags around the country. http://www.listener.co.nz/current-affairs/social-issues-current-affairs/water-threats-new-zealand/#
I guess we'll be keeping the cows and drinking chlorinated water. Not that I will be.
@ geeves, water will be a good option at 120, by then our water will embalm you...
Thats if I can still hold a fork to consume it
Soy milk tastes like liquid cardboard. Yuck! Whilst I really don't limit myself in any foodstuffs at all (when I should), I realised I'm drinking less and less milk. Not a conscious thing. I don't drink coffee at all, so I don't need it there. On the rare occasions I have cereal, I'll usually use yoghurt. And I mostly drink herbal tea, although will have the odd black tea. So milk just doesn't factor into things for me anymore. Which is strange, because when I was younger, I drank A LOT of it! I also completely disagree with the way the dairy industry is going, so I'm happy to continue down the as-little-milk-as-possible route. However..... Try and take cheese away from me. I dare you! ;)
"Soy milk tastes like liquid cardboard" Thats not being very kind to cardboard
Socks. Tastes more like socks than cardboard.
I think I would still rather drink the wringings from those socks. That is unless you have been wearing them more than a week in a swamp. Close call though
Agreed!
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