DOC volunteer work

DOC arent going to bother trying to prosecute someone just trying to get through a windfall by clearing it enough to get past? i think that law is for people who are using that as an excuse to clear something more than they should be for whatever reason, ie making the track wider than it originally was without permission.. given you've got groups at present who are reestablishing tracks with DOC permission, and there will be some discussion from DOC that will tell them what standard of track they are allowed to create, and the limitations on how much clearing they can do. whats going to happen in the future with the increasing amount of DOC volunteer work, there are going to be more injuries and possibly deaths of volunteers and its going to highlight the situation of putting people in dangerous situations they aren't even being remunerated for. wasn't the person who died at Raoul island a volunteer? permanent staff work there as well but it was a volunteer who died? how much was this because of their lack of experience compared to a long term employed staff member? or was it just bad luck a rogue wave swept him away to his death? i wouldnt do a job like that in such a remote place without having a locator beacon attached to me at all times at least and i wouldnt volunteer for it. there are volunteers and volunteers, you've got people working on huts and maintaining tracks who have decades of experience in the outdoors and their chances of having an accident are low because their experience enables them to work more safely and minimise the risks of the job. I"d argue DOC havent taken that factor into account enough as they've increased the push for volunteers. There are more and more volunteers with far less experience getting involved in volunteer work now who arent as good at coping with the risks involved. A forestry worker told me the vast majority of accidents happen to workers in their early years on the job. they arent as adept at coping with the risks or just dont have the aptitude and wouldnt last in the job anyway, some just cant or won't develop enough of a safety awareness to avoid injury...
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"its a confusing situation as clubs arent telling the full story when they tell their members they can't do work on DOC land for OSH reasons." As far as I can tell, when it comes to doing things on DOC land then it's not primarily an OSH issue for the individual, unless DOC says so. The strict legality comes down to DOC giving permission.... whether it's to work on a hut (unless it's owned by someone other than DOC), or to work on a track (where permission is technically needed by DOC to "damage the park"). Sports and recreation clubs are specifically excluded in the definition of 'volunteer worker' under section 19(3), but only for assisting with sports or recreation, like leading trips and stuff. DOC, or a coordinating club, might still decide that it falls into the category of a PCBU where work is being carried out by a person or persons on an ongoing basis.... which isn't even the end of the world because it might also be decided that all reasonable safety precautions are being taken in the context of the work being undertaken, with people appropriately qualified and so on. But they might also decide that other measures need to be taken, and if that's too hard for anyone in the mix then permission mightn't be given. You can go out there and just *do* stuff, as some people here do (neat), and that absolves DOC from any PCBU responsibility UNLESS it has knowledge of you doing it, but to do so is to take a risk that DOC will learn about and take exception to what you're doing, and potentially prosecute or take measures to make you stop. (Again, it comes down to permission.) This may be fine as a minimal risk for individuals, and people in DOC might even make a big deal about turning a blind eye, at their own risk, if they think it's something beneficial, but clubs generally have obligations to their membership and to the people who take responsibility on their committees to aim to do stuff legally.... which generally means gaining permission.
Thanks Hugh vN. I have a healthy disrespect for ridiculous laws and now will sally forth into DoC volunteer work with no worries! I've spent the last 50 years or so working on buildings etc. with never an accident except for the odd scratch or two. I'm so relieved that my building career finished around now so I don't have to waste energy and money on qualifications and equipment which I don't need but now are required. Living in Golden Bay helps as people here generally just get on with life however they want to. Freedom! lol
If an existing track needs clearing - clear it. If your shelter needs maintenance - maintain it (or soon you won't have shelter). Be sensible, don't damage anything that doesn't need to be damaged, be aware of how your actions impact on others, talk to the other people involved (paid or otherwise) share the decisions and the work, and pre-emptively avoid getting hurt. Note: here in NZ that is what clubs and individuals have been doing for 100 years, pre-doc, pre- hse. For plenty of obvious reasons (not always justifiable) organised groups expend a lot of effort in making things more complicated. Especially when the control of money (or group assets) is involved. Volunteering for 'DoC Work' (or to spend DoC money via the Recreation Consortium) gets very complicated very quickly. Choosing to spend your recreation time on clearing a way through a windfall is very simple. Do it.
facebook is currently the best way to keep up-to-date with many of the projects that people are doing for recreation, on our conservation lands. :-)
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Forum Tracks, routes, and huts
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On 16 April 2016
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