Funny thing is I'm not even sure what it's a mandate for. Something about rowing a boat backwards in the right direction.
Oh well. The populace has spoken.
did peiople vote for the party they wanted or the party the dislied the least? what were the real options for a party that could run the country effectively?
or the party the dislied the least?
I know thats a typo but after the last election and its run up who could say it was the wrong word.
Lets face it
Conservatives say yes to everything that they thought mght win votes
Act Just want the rest of your money
United Future or is that the world according to Dunne. Hes my MP but I didnt vote for him
The parties once known as Labour. Note the plural
Winston I mean New Zealand First. Once upon a time Winston was trained and destined to be PM but turned his back on the National party. He believes in what he says and does so I have to call him one of very few honest politicians. Honesty is not a way to win votes
Mana Hone is one of our other honest polititions but he must of be wearing his beenie a little low the day Dotcom came to visit
Greens Everyone wants them to have a major part in the government but no one actually wants to give them the reigns.
Maori Party Really they are a one policy party. A benifit to any government but giving them the keys to the country ?
That only leaves the party I said I would not recognise when they sold the first power station
"United Future or is that the world according to Dunne. Hes my MP but I didnt vote for him "
I find it interesting how he gets in, given his influence on Conservation policy. You can look at the polling booth results with a great visualisation from the Herald at http://data.nzherald.co.nz/ Most of the booths in the electorate through Wadestown, Crofton Downs, Ngaio, Johnsonville, Newlands and Tawa were roughly even between Peter Dunne (UF) and Virginia Anderson (Lab), or Anderson was coming out in front. But he obliterated her in a small number of booths centred on Khandallah and Churton Park. Both of those are fairly well-off places, but it's not simply a socioeconomic thing. People in Wadestown and Ngaio are also generally well off, but didn't vote for him anywhere near as overwhelmingly. Go figure.
Still, Ohariu's really the only strong National-leaning electorate around Wellington. No Labour candidate would come close to winning it if National weren't playing their game there of telling all its supporters to vote for him, then hoping to profit from some overhang that results from an insignificant party vote nationally. So we'll probably keep Peter Dunne as an Associate Minister of Conservation, and he'll keep his higher-than-standard salary for being both a Minister *and* a Party Leader (for a party which nobody votes for) until he decides he wants to cash up and retire, or really annoys someone.
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Someone has to be the Minister for Bow-Ties and Coiffured Hair, and he is the most qualified man for that in parliament!
Unless you count Judith Collins and she doesn't wear a bow tie....but can we believe her? :)
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Just to put the cat amongst the pigeons, but Hitler got 35% of the vote in the 1933 election, the last held in ?Germany prior to the 1950's. And look at the trouble that let him get into...
till, Ohariu's really the only strong National-leaning electorate around Wellington. No Labour candidate would come close to winning it if National weren't playing their game there of telling all its supporters to vote for him,
At the same time the green candidate was also going door to door telling everyone to vote for the labour candidate. Had everyone listened we wouldnt have to put up with Dunne again. If all the Green candidate votes had gone to Virginia she would of had a 2000 majority.
A quirk of MMP is that as your number of seats is set by your portion of the vote the only way you can exceed your influence is to do a deal with a coalition partner so you get them over and above your fair share.
"If all the Green candidate votes had gone to Virginia she would of had a 2000 majority."
I'll see you and raise you the 6000 votes that Brett Hudson (NAT) picked up, despite effectively telling his supporters to vote for Peter Dunne instead ( http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10507529/Dunne-gets-the-nod-from-Nationals-candidate ). :) Labour candidates have only come close in Ohariu for the past several elections because of the three way split, where a certain portion of National supporters either can't or won't be told to vote for Dunne for whatever reason. If National didn't want to gift the electorate to him, they could just take it.
And that's how we have Peter Dunne pushing his agenda in the Conservation Estate, despite virtually no support. MMP is a million times better than what came before and I like it for heaps of reasons, but not for this one.
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Problem with MMP is the 5% threshold, it should be removed so everyones vote should be given equal weighting. If a party gets enough votes ( 0.83%) to get represented they should be represented.
All arguments I have seen in support of a threshold just seem to be to protect the status quo, but any such threshold is nothing but undemocratic.
I would also remove electorate seats entirely, they are very prone to gerrymandering so in most cases the results are a foregone conclusions, and in the rare occasion a third party candidate does do well the spoiler effect can result in a unpreferred candidate winning.
I'll see you and raise you the 6000 votes that Brett Hudson (NAT) picked up, despite effectively telling his supporters to vote for Peter Dunne instead (
I fold You win
